Last night, I met senatorial candidate Joe Miller at Wellspring church.
I mainly wanted to see his stand on preemptive war. I decided not to ask the question publicly during the Q & A, because I thought if he did agree with me [he said in his talk that he was a member of the Friends church — which isn’t the Friends church I knew about (see comments 1 and 2 below)] many of the ‘Christians’ there would decide not to vote for him, because they want to bomb-bomb-bomb Iran whether Iran is really developing nukes or not, and many haven’t yet repented from supporting the immoral Bush Wars I & II.
Didn’t Jesus say: “Do unto others…” and “Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God?” How did we get so far off? Didn’t we learn anything from Iraq? Why do we think we can trust our government’s Iran-with-WMDs analysis when now we find they actually fabricated the Iraq version: Newly declassified: Bush team wanted Iraq war from start and White House claims of Iraq pursuing a nuclear weapons program based on confiscated aluminum tubes were fabricated
I thought I’d post a photo of Joe looking good,
because the corporatocracy owned Anchorage Daily News
probably will intentionally do the opposite.
Joe Miller
[20% crop of photo shot from across the room with the tiny LX5]
I was the last person to talk with Joe with I think only his campaign manager listening. I asked him what he thought of preemptive war, mentioning that I heard him say that he was a Friends church [Quakers] member.
He said he should have explained that. He then gave a response that I imagine is pretty close to Rand Paul, who is more willing to bomb Iran than his father, Ron. Ron Paul believes in self-defense when it really is, but preemptive war is most often reverse-Christian:
Ron Paul’s Biggest Eye-Opener: ‘Christian’ Evangelicals Pushing Preemptive War in the Name of Spreading Christian ‘Love’
Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!
Ron Paul: Jesus is the Prince of PEACE, Not Preemptive War
Joe said something like we shouldn’t be nation building with wars, but on the other hand, if just one nuke hits us, that’s the end of our republic. So he’s for bombing Iran, but not to take them over for regime change.
I responded, “But we can’t trust the CIA’s intel.” Right then, the man whom I think is Joe’s campaign manager scurried him off to go to another meeting — so Joe couldn’t answer.
Overall, I was impressed with Joe Miller’s willingness to answer everyone’s questions, and then to answer them directly. He seems like a real, no-nonsense kind of guy, totally unlike Lisa Murkowski, whom I’ve always not voted for.
So I didn’t get a Joe Miller bumper sticker. I can’t 100%-support a candidate who isn’t more careful about preemptive war, but I do think he’s quite amazing, and I hope he wins. He is light years ahead of Lisa, who is so liberal people wonder how she can still be a Republican. She has actually said something like: “I don’t think people care how much we spend.”
Lisa is in many ways the opposite of the Christlike leader, Congressman Ron Paul, whom the evangelicals in Alaska (and elsewhere) mostly dissed in 2008. And it really does seem that Joe Miller is very much like Ron’s son, who could soon join Joe Miller in the U.S. Senate, which would be a great improvement.
I didn’t think that Lisa had a chance, having lost in the primary to Joe, but in this ‘me’ generation, it seems that a large percentage of Alaskans are more concerned with getting federal money than in doing the right thing for the future of this nation, which includes no longer aborting babies.
God bless!
Jeff Fenske
Anchorage, Alaska
thedon
Friends Church is a nondenomination crazy church in Fairbanks not the quakers
Jeff Fenske
thedon,
Now I understand. It’s Friends Community Church, not what is commonly known as The Friends, which is what I thought Joe was referring to.
From Wikipedia Religious Society of Friends
The Religious Society of Friends has been categorized as one of the peace churches, alongside the Church of the Brethren, Mennonites and Amish, because of all of these churches’ emphasis on Christian pacifism. These churches also share other similarities in terms of theology including a literal interpretation of the Sermon on the Mount….
Isn’t it amazing that most churches don’t take Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount literally. Luther didn’t, and most pastors in Nazi Germany didn’t, except for Dietrech Bonhoeffer and a few others who didn’t sell out. And this is a huge source of the deception in most ‘Christian’ churches today.
Isn’t this also interesting in that most evangelical and Lutheran churches say they believe the Bible is the word of God, but then they don’t have to go by what Jesus says in the Sermon on the Mount?
From Friends Community Church’s What we believe webpage. This is good:
ABOUT THE BIBLE
The Bible is God´s Word to all men. It was written by human authors, under the supernatural guidance of the Holy Spirit. It is the supreme source of truth for Christian beliefs and living. Because it is inspired by God, it is truth without any mixture of error.
2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20,21; 2 Timothy 1:13; Psalm 119:105,160, 12:6; Proverbs 30:5
I like this too, and this is perhaps why you call them ‘crazy’:
ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT
The Holy Spirit is equal with the Father and the Son as God. He is present in the world to make men aware of their need for Jesus Christ. He also lives in every Christian from the moment of salvation. He provides the Christian with power for living, understanding of spiritual truth, and guidance in doing what is right. The Christian seeks to live under His control daily. The Holy Spirit is the administrator of the Church!
2 Corinthians 3:17; John 16:7-13, 14:16,17;
Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 2:12, 3:16;
Ephesians 1:13; Galatians 5:25; Ephesians 5:1
I wouldn’t call them crazy, but I would call them deceived, just like most churches in America. Here, Friends Community Church is right out in the open with it — no matter what a ‘Christian’ does they can’t lose their salvation — the great deception:
ABOUT SURETY OF YOUR
SALVATION
Because God gives man eternal life through Jesus Christ, the believer CAN enjoy SURETY in salvation. Salvation is maintained by the grace and power of God, not by the self-effort* of the Christian. It is the grace and keeping power of God that gives this security.
John 10:29; 2 Timothy 1:12; Hebrews 7:25; 10:10,14; 1 Peter 1:3-5
This one false doctrine, alone, once-saved-always-saved (which I disprove beyond the shadow of doubt here Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way), may be why Joe isn’t easily defeating Lisa Murkowski, why his life isn’t squeaky clean so now they can pull up all of this dirt to get him.
* Notice how they say ‘self-effort,’ which isn’t the other option that should be taught. The Holy Spirit enables believers to overcome sins that lead to death, as we abide in Him. And if we don’t overcome, the Bible warns us over and over, as I write in my article.
Interesting, this helps me understand more of what is going on with Joe.
Imagine if both Joe Miller and Sarah Palin had been taught the truth about what a real Christian is and who goes to heaven. For I think false doctrine is also Sarah’s main problem.
But to end in a positive note: false doctrine may be the source of the problem, but sound doctrine is the source of the solution. It’s time that the truth about who goes to heaven is taught in Alaska, so we can really lead with our heads held high, instead of falling on our faces in front of everyone. Sarah is such an embarrassment. “That’s Christianity?”
Very interesting. Thanks again,
Jeff
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This site verifies that it is Friends Community Church in Fairbanks that Joe attends. I think Joe said at the Wellspring meeting that he is on the board at Friends.
He is a member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars (life Member), the NRA, Benefactor, and the Friends Church (nondenominational) in Fairbanks.